DBZ is so inconsistent

Rotation Advertisements

We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum.

If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away.

Click here to Register!

If you are having difficulties validating your account please email us at admin@dbzf.co.uk

If you're already a member please log in to your account:

Pages:
1
2

DBZ is so inconsistent
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 2 2014, 11:04 AM (2,770 Views)
Sky	Jun 3 2014, 02:55 PM Post #16
One Special Nerd Posts: 1,703 Group: Member Member #8,754 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Female	For some reason, this never bothered me.. But now that it's brought up, I agree after the Frieza saga maybe battles should have been taken elsewhere. It still doesn't bother me all that much, though.
	Avatar by TeamChilledTreats!


Goddess Ultimecia	Jun 3 2014, 03:02 PM Post #17
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	There are two limiting factors for our heroes that keep them from just going "Screw it, IMA FIRIN MAH LAZAAAA" 1.) The Earth needing to be protected holds them back immensely, they fire off a blast directly down or don't condense energy then BOOM everything they're fighting to protect is no longer there. 2.) They can't breath or survive in the vacuum of space, blow up the planet and still there? Slowly suffocate and have their organs escape out of their mouth or other holes in their body... If they didn't have to worry about those two factors then I'm positive they would (Maybe not Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks) not condense their blasts and let loose with Solar System rendering blasts. But of course Goku does show remorse about killing innocents so I'm not even sure if then he'd let loose. Statements should be taken as fact until either a contradicting feat occurs or a contradicting statement is made.
	NinjaSushi Colouring Credit to NinjaSushi for the colouring


+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 3 2014, 03:10 PM Post #18
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Cell's claim does not have to be backed up by a feat. Toriyama is consistent with having a characters claims be true. Cell should be no different.
	Battle Power Guide 3DS FC: 2707-1669-7946 XBL/PSN: MaOujiBejita


Jae102	Jun 3 2014, 03:17 PM Post #19
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 03:10 PM Cell's claim does not have to be backed up by a feat. Toriyama is consistent with having a characters claims be true. Cell should be no different. That makes no sense. If Buu can't do the same who is stronger than Cell then how does that work?



Jae102	Jun 3 2014, 03:19 PM Post #20
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	TConnor_Demonic Jun 3 2014, 03:02 PM There are two limiting factors for our heroes that keep them from just going "Screw it, IMA FIRIN MAH LAZAAAA" 1.) The Earth needing to be protected holds them back immensely, they fire off a blast directly down or don't condense energy then BOOM everything they're fighting to protect is no longer there. 2.) They can't breath or survive in the vacuum of space, blow up the planet and still there? Slowly suffocate and have their organs escape out of their mouth or other holes in their body... If they didn't have to worry about those two factors then I'm positive they would (Maybe not Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks) not condense their blasts and let loose with Solar System rendering blasts. But of course Goku does show remorse about killing innocents so I'm not even sure if then he'd let loose. Statements should be taken as fact until either a contradicting feat occurs or a contradicting statement is made. The contradicting feat was Buu blowing up the earth. Goku and Vegeta could of deflected Buu's attack right if it's only planet busting. But they couldn't they had to leave to the Kai planet. Edited by Jae102, Jun 3 2014, 03:19 PM.



Goddess Ultimecia	Jun 3 2014, 03:30 PM Post #21
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 03:19 PM TConnor_Demonic Jun 3 2014, 03:02 PM There are two limiting factors for our heroes that keep them from just going "Screw it, IMA FIRIN MAH LAZAAAA" 1.) The Earth needing to be protected holds them back immensely, they fire off a blast directly down or don't condense energy then BOOM everything they're fighting to protect is no longer there. 2.) They can't breath or survive in the vacuum of space, blow up the planet and still there? Slowly suffocate and have their organs escape out of their mouth or other holes in their body... If they didn't have to worry about those two factors then I'm positive they would (Maybe not Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks) not condense their blasts and let loose with Solar System rendering blasts. But of course Goku does show remorse about killing innocents so I'm not even sure if then he'd let loose. Statements should be taken as fact until either a contradicting feat occurs or a contradicting statement is made. The contradicting feat was Buu blowing up the earth. Goku and Vegeta could of deflected Buu's attack right if it's only planet busting. But they couldn't they had to leave to the Kai planet. Boo wasn't exactly trying his hardest in his little blast, not to mention only the SSJ2 tier characters are Solar System Busters via statements. Correct me if I'm wrong but Goku and Vegeta were in Base weren't they? Or only SSJ. Not like Kid Boo hasn't shown he toys around. He is a very sadistic being. Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P7.3 Context: Boo fires a ki blast at the Earth, but Vegeta repels it Goku: "Th-that was close...! Th-that bastard, he tried to blow away the Earth right off the bat...Thank you, Vegeta..." Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P8.7 Context: Boo forms a big ki blast Goku: "It-it’s huge...! You've got to be kidding...! Do-does he intend to unleash that...!? ...We can't knock back something like that...!" Vegeta knocks away a planet rendering blast at first from Kid Boo and Goku thanks him for it, later (like a few moments after) Kid Boo makes a ki blast that Goku and Vegeta admit that they CANNOT do anything about. This just shows that they have the amount of ki needed to blow away a solar system, they just can't put it into a radius large enough to accomplish it. Otherwise if everyone were just plain planet busters Vegeta or Goku could've just swatted away the other blast Boo made. Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Jun 3 2014, 03:38 PM.
	NinjaSushi Colouring Credit to NinjaSushi for the colouring


Jae102	Jun 3 2014, 03:46 PM Post #22
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	TConnor_Demonic Jun 3 2014, 03:30 PM Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 03:19 PM TConnor_Demonic Jun 3 2014, 03:02 PM There are two limiting factors for our heroes that keep them from just going "Screw it, IMA FIRIN MAH LAZAAAA" 1.) The Earth needing to be protected holds them back immensely, they fire off a blast directly down or don't condense energy then BOOM everything they're fighting to protect is no longer there. 2.) They can't breath or survive in the vacuum of space, blow up the planet and still there? Slowly suffocate and have their organs escape out of their mouth or other holes in their body... If they didn't have to worry about those two factors then I'm positive they would (Maybe not Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks) not condense their blasts and let loose with Solar System rendering blasts. But of course Goku does show remorse about killing innocents so I'm not even sure if then he'd let loose. Statements should be taken as fact until either a contradicting feat occurs or a contradicting statement is made. The contradicting feat was Buu blowing up the earth. Goku and Vegeta could of deflected Buu's attack right if it's only planet busting. But they couldn't they had to leave to the Kai planet. Boo wasn't exactly trying his hardest in his little blast, not to mention only the SSJ2 tier characters are Solar System Busters via statements. Correct me if I'm wrong but Goku and Vegeta were in Base weren't they? Or only SSJ. Not like Kid Boo hasn't shown he toys around. He is a very sadistic being. Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P7.3 Context: Boo fires a ki blast at the Earth, but Vegeta repels it Goku: "Th-that was close...! Th-that bastard, he tried to blow away the Earth right off the bat...Thank you, Vegeta..." Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P8.7 Context: Boo forms a big ki blast Goku: "It-it’s huge...! You've got to be kidding...! Do-does he intend to unleash that...!? ...We can't knock back something like that...!" Vegeta knocks away a planet rendering blast at first from Kid Boo and Goku thanks him for it, later (like a few moments after) Kid Boo makes a ki blast that Goku and Vegeta admit that they CANNOT do anything about. This just shows that they have the amount of ki needed to blow away a solar system, they just can't put it into a radius large enough to accomplish it. Otherwise if everyone were just plain planet busters Vegeta or Goku could've just swatted away the other blast Boo made. That makes no sense if Buu used the blast and it only blew up a planet then how can it blow a solar system? Buu just used a planet busting shot then he uses a more powerfuler planet busting shot that blow up the planet.



Goddess Ultimecia	Jun 3 2014, 04:18 PM Post #23
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 03:46 PM TConnor_Demonic Jun 3 2014, 03:30 PM Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 03:19 PM TConnor_Demonic Jun 3 2014, 03:02 PM There are two limiting factors for our heroes that keep them from just going "Screw it, IMA FIRIN MAH LAZAAAA" 1.) The Earth needing to be protected holds them back immensely, they fire off a blast directly down or don't condense energy then BOOM everything they're fighting to protect is no longer there. 2.) They can't breath or survive in the vacuum of space, blow up the planet and still there? Slowly suffocate and have their organs escape out of their mouth or other holes in their body... If they didn't have to worry about those two factors then I'm positive they would (Maybe not Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks) not condense their blasts and let loose with Solar System rendering blasts. But of course Goku does show remorse about killing innocents so I'm not even sure if then he'd let loose. Statements should be taken as fact until either a contradicting feat occurs or a contradicting statement is made. The contradicting feat was Buu blowing up the earth. Goku and Vegeta could of deflected Buu's attack right if it's only planet busting. But they couldn't they had to leave to the Kai planet. Boo wasn't exactly trying his hardest in his little blast, not to mention only the SSJ2 tier characters are Solar System Busters via statements. Correct me if I'm wrong but Goku and Vegeta were in Base weren't they? Or only SSJ. Not like Kid Boo hasn't shown he toys around. He is a very sadistic being. Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P7.3 Context: Boo fires a ki blast at the Earth, but Vegeta repels it Goku: "Th-that was close...! Th-that bastard, he tried to blow away the Earth right off the bat...Thank you, Vegeta..." Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P8.7 Context: Boo forms a big ki blast Goku: "It-it’s huge...! You've got to be kidding...! Do-does he intend to unleash that...!? ...We can't knock back something like that...!" Vegeta knocks away a planet rendering blast at first from Kid Boo and Goku thanks him for it, later (like a few moments after) Kid Boo makes a ki blast that Goku and Vegeta admit that they CANNOT do anything about. This just shows that they have the amount of ki needed to blow away a solar system, they just can't put it into a radius large enough to accomplish it. Otherwise if everyone were just plain planet busters Vegeta or Goku could've just swatted away the other blast Boo made. That makes no sense if Buu used the blast and it only blew up a planet then how can it blow a solar system? Buu just used a planet busting shot then he uses a more powerfuler planet busting shot that blow up the planet. How do you know that? They're just planet busters aren't they? It should be the same right? Surely there's no scaling of any sort going on and Saiyan Arc Vegeta is just as dangerous as Boo because he too can bust a planet right? But wait he doesn't have a feat now does he? Do we disregard that? Do we disregard First Form Freeza busting Planet Vegeta because his Final Form couldn't bust Planet Namek in one shot? Do people only become planet one shotters until Kid Boo rolls around? Cell's statement is uncontradicted seeing as how Goku is always shown to condense his energy, it's why a simple ki blast of his doesn't blow up a planet...the same with Kid Boo. Condensing is key in DBZ and you seem to look at it like they have no control of it whatsoever. Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Jun 3 2014, 04:21 PM.
	NinjaSushi Colouring Credit to NinjaSushi for the colouring


+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 3 2014, 04:42 PM Post #24
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 03:17 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 03:10 PM Cell's claim does not have to be backed up by a feat. Toriyama is consistent with having a characters claims be true. Cell should be no different. That makes no sense. If Buu can't do the same who is stronger than Cell then how does that work? Buu can though, he just never did because he never really had a chance to.
	Battle Power Guide 3DS FC: 2707-1669-7946 XBL/PSN: MaOujiBejita


Alex D. Boss	Jun 3 2014, 05:46 PM Post #25
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Lol, let leave DBZ alone. Its still the anime what influenced your favorite anime.



Mihawk	Jun 3 2014, 06:31 PM Post #26
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Agreed. The main problem I see is the fact that he wanted the fights to take place on Earth. He countered the planet being destroyed by 100% of stated planet/moon buster to be used in out of battle scenarios: Roshi blasting a stationary moon Piccolo destroyed stationary moon Goku you better stay in one place or else the Earth will be destroyed @Cell if you're so confident don't dodge this Goku using a trick scenario with IT Among every other planet buster which was similar. The issue this causes is power scaling since you'd just assume that starting from EoDB fighters should be able to casually do what Roshi did earlier (especially when Boo's charged Kamehameha destroyed only fraction of a town). I'm not sure how to reconcile the issue other than just accepting plot hole (which does make sense as Toriyama isn't perfect). Edited by Mihawk, Jun 4 2014, 04:40 PM.



Jae102	Jun 8 2014, 03:48 PM Post #27
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	Sorry fella's haven't posted or replied to any of your comments been feeling kinda sick lately. Still it sucks but the best time to show that feat was with Buu blowing a solar system rather than just the earth it just makes it look inconsistent. And to the poster who said Vegeta was going to blow up the earth I don't know he might of killed himself too if he did.



1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)

ZetaBoards gives you all the tools to create a successful discussion community. Learn More · Sign-up for Free
« Previous Topic · Dragon Ball/Z Discussion · Next Topic »

Pages:
1
2